Hi there Tony.

An absolutely brilliant post. I went out to China with English International last May and returned three months later after the comapany folded.

I read a post on another forum (Yahoo answers I think) where a father who's son was conned by English International had actually gone down to POD's offices in Baltey. They were told the company had moved. My gut feeling is that this POD outfit will fold as quickly as English International did. The cat is well and truely out of the bag with them and They can't go on conning for two long before the relevant authorities are made aware and they are shut down or have to go to ground again.

To anyone reading this, I can honestly say that I got off very lightly with this lot compared to some people who have gone half way around the world with these guys. China is a long way to go on the say so of a bunch of thuggish con artists, and believe me thats what these guys are.

I await to see what happens...

asked by Ross P. on 5/3/11

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Thumbnail of user charlottea

I am thinking of going with these guys too. Does anyone have any information on it? Is it legit?
Charlotte x

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Thumbnail of user iaini

I don't know, even though I've been to an interview though and got the job. Email me at iain_inkster@hotmail.com if you want to know what I know.

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Thumbnail of user ivyp

Im working for them in china, They are well equipped and have a good set up. Although i had some teething problems but that was due to culture shock. I really enjoy working now and i will definatley stay here for an extra year. I work in hubei province and they have done what they said in england. If you want to contact me then email me at ganmuli48@hotmail.com, cheers

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Thumbnail of user danielk1

Do eny one have eny problem with this company? Im going to Chaina next manth and woud like to now samthing abaut them.

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Thumbnail of user timb

Daniel k no offence man, but you cant spell. If they have given you a job it doesnt hold out much hope for us...
Im going to an interview in a few weeks, any genuine people that have been/are in china, please msg me with some info :)

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Thumbnail of user lydiah

Hi guys,

I've applied to work with English International and they said it would be 10 days to get back in touch with me but now it's been 16 days and i've still not heard anything. I am quite excited about doing this and would like to know how long the application process took for them?

Cheers,

Lydia.

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Thumbnail of user alexs11

DO NOT WORK FOR THEM.

THE COMAPNY ARE TRAFFICKING PEOPLE TO CHINA. ALL THE POSITIVE REPORTS ARE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THIS COMPANY OF 3 NAMES
1 - ENGLISH INTERNATIONAL
2 - HAVE FUN TEACHING
3 - LITTLE DRAGON

Take a look at, http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1890692

http://www.ripoffreport.com/teachers/english-internationa/english-international-the-tru-f8e83.htm

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=2161463

http://china.eslteachercafe.com/topic851-havefunteachingcouk-and-english-international.aspx

http://forums.gumtree.com/viewtopic_f_29_t_386018_Teaching_English_in_China

(latest post very interesting)

(China teach leeds havefunteaching.co.uk englishinternational.info scam job leeds)

Complete scam

Alex - a teacher employed through this company. Back in uk now.

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Thumbnail of user samf4

The only positive comment on here is from someone called Ivy, Funnily enough, one of the Chinese girls who works for them in Shenzhen is called Ivy too. Love a good coincidence.

I was there earlier this year and all the negative stories you read all over the internet are 100% true. I learned the hard way and the most stupid thing I have ever done was go with this company without doing proper research. Never again.

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Thumbnail of user whistleb

Ivy p is Billy's girlfriend one of the guys that runs the company and she is chinese so please tell me a culture shock in the country you were born in really? ganmuli48@hotmail.com is Billy and Ivy's email address so why would they feel the need to post positive reviews on here posing as an employee of the company-i know all this cause i worked for them for 6 monthsand let me tell you i am none too happy with the amount of money they take from you and the constant lying by the company-Don't go with this company you will regret it.

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Thumbnail of user truthi

Ive not laughed this much in ages... if your going to defend your own company, then its probably advisable to leave out an email address that is clearly your own. I work 40 hours a week for absolutely jack $#*!... I wasn't informed that I also have to do promotions and marketing... the list goes on. If it wasnt for my part time jobs I would be screwed... Just looking for an excuse to get out now to be honest. GO INDEPENDENT. More time consuming and trickier but a far better option than this pish. Avoid

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Thumbnail of user louiser1

Well at the moment i am sat with my friend and we have both left the company. They threated a automatic CCJ against our name's if we left the company. Even know that is imposible since we do not owe them any money. They have taken from my friend and i over 80,000 RMB from us since we have been here.

They are manipulitive, thieving, professional liar's who are takeing advantage of people who are vunrable and not a custome to the way China works. They treat you like you are nothing and and lie to you all the time. They are rude and pathetic and they deserve all the S**T they get. We are still here and we want to tell everyone who would like to work over here, it is so easy and so much fun. You get to meet so many nice people and it is just a great place to be. As my friend just said "CHINA IS COOL"

Hope that you read this and understand that this company or lack of are Con Artist's and they would make alot more money on the "Rral Hussle"...

Good Luck and GET AWAY FROM THIS COMPANY AS SOON AS YOU CAN!

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Thumbnail of user rossp

Agree with everything posted here, apart from the obvious fake endorsement from the company. The people who run this firm are thieving scum and must be avoided at all costs.

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Thumbnail of user tonym15

We were led to believe the company had gone bust that Billy (one of two Brothers called Billy and Adam Parr) Co owners of the company had been arrested once he was back in England for the colossal theft that had been reported. It was also stated that Tim (the tall one in the office) a silent partner had fled Leeds and was running from the Police. Adam (the calculated and articulate one) had avoided all charges.

Now I read that they are back under the name of POD and it makes my blood run cold. I had a VERY hands on experience with this company last year, I knew the teachers and their stories and as far fetched as they seem every single word is true. Imagine your worst nightmare in a Communist country where you do not speak the language and they do, completely at their mercy or (as happened last year) sacked in seconds in the foyer of a rented Hotel and left to fend for yourself.

Please excuse the following profanity but Vicky (Ivy) or Mudan which means Flower, your real name in your Province of Hunnan I believe it was your bull! Chokes me. I can tell you names and give you case studies of people who went out there and what happened to them I have files containing the details of their Chinese "experiences" from a young Scottish girl called Deirdre who was chased down the street by Lucas (owner of Omega the Chinese company people refer to above) to people like Mark who got out by pretending to go to the interview and was later cornered in a cafe and made to pay an extortionate 9000RMB to terminate his contract with and I quote "his arms in tact".

Please, please please for the love of God if you are thinking of going out there with this company DON'T!
You can dismiss me as a disgruntled employee (and they will try) but I wasn't I served my time quietly collecting information for use in the UK.
You can read this and think to yourself "that's one guys opinion, I'll make my own mind up" like two best friends did and find yourself sitting in front of a laptop in a noisy training room trying to be interviewed for a location undisclosed... It happened - Damien was sent to a rat infested hole where he could see through the roof at night (we are talking big bloody rats), Richard got sent to Hunnan (12 inches of snow) in shorts and a t-shirt and nearly froze to death in the Airport at the other side, Chris was sacked because they wanted to put a girl in his school after 3 months and moved to the outskirts of Shenzhen where you have to be a mountain goat to get to your school miles from civilisation...

There are more in fact last year alone there were 178 people all of which with horror stories and none of which got what they were promised.
Please I beg you if you are a parent reading this for your child be a good parent and say no you can not go! They may be upset but you save them from a terrible fate you protect them which lets face it is your job. If you're a potential teacher let logic guide you think can all these people be wrong of course not your opportunity may lie in China it is a beautiful place but it does not lie with this company.

I am so concerned about all of this starting up again that I am going to bookmark this site and every day after School (I am a Teacher) I will log on to this blog and answer any questions you may have - PLEASE ask me the questions don't find out for yourself because trust me when I say not all experiences are worth feeling for yourself. In the meantime I will speak to the teachers I am still in contact with from last year and tell them about this blog, the new site and the new name. Don't be fooled people.

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