I just purchased a pair of timberland Jaynes. I ordered size 8. I have pretty small feet, what they sent me was,I don't know like a 4. Way too small, sent them back, ordered another pair. Timberland just sent me any old pair, ordered nubuck,size 8.5 just to be sure, got gray and brown two tone things, again way too small. I needed workboots, for work! I can't keep sending back all these screw ups. Plus my refund hasn't gone through yet. WTH! I'm going to Carolinas. Timberland sucks.