Michael S.

Donny Klaehn is claiming to have 100.000s of customers and 5 millions Websites out there... but if you ask a question, he himself is replying in a manner, like no business-lawyer ever would.
I did not waste my money by giving this a try.
I have enough experience with crazy dominant criminals that mime to be very successful.

If you will, please see my messages and his replies here:

Re: Spoke to You on Setting up a Wyoming LLC -See Attachment
Von:
Donny Klaehn <*******@lawyerslimited.com>
Datum:
23.08.2023, 15:59
An:
Michael

Answer in Blue

Donny,

Thank you.

I like the fact that you regard rich and poor as a state of mind.

Answer: That is reality - if you program yourself to think you are broke you will always be broke ----- there are plenty of people who have no money and became wealthy - Dr Ben carsen grew up in the projects, no father, became a world class surgeon, michael jordon did not make his his school basketball team - one of the best NBA players

Only question is are you willing to pay the price to succeed

I see you are a lawyer and therefore you are maybe used to a tougher tone than I am.

Answer; God made me very direct - most people appreciate the honesty - I dislike email because you can not distinguish a persons tone at all - if you used a phone you would see the difference

To get clarity for me, please tell me whether the offer I found is still actual.

This is the investment
Wyoming Corp $ 535.00
EIN# 75.00
Total Investment $ 610.00

You provide a German address

I am ready to file the basic package plus EIN (75$).

Would you please tell me how to proceed?

I will call you ----- if you are willing to talk

Thank you!

P.S.: Sending an email for me is a sign of respect for your life and precious time. No hiding at all.

Answer: 99% of people never do business because if you do not understand it you will not do it.

You do not buy a house or car by email this is no different

How should I expect false/overcome information?

Answer: How many companies have been around 117 years, we are a debt free 10 million dollar company -best way is pick up a phone and speak to someone. I call people all over the world. We do not take peoples money

But to be sure I did ask!

"Truth and facts" from my perspective would also have been:

"Oh! Sorry! Our mistake! Things changed. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. New conditions are..."

This would be "my" style.

Regards - Michael

See attached proof of company

Sincerely,
Donny Klaehn

Lawyers Limited, Inc.®
1-800-COMPANY ® / Companies Incorporated®
Tel. 1-800-COMPANY (*******269)
Tel. *******303
Skype: live:donny_740
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On Wed, Aug 23,2023 at 9:32 AM Michael wrote:

Donny,

thank you.

I like the fact that you regard rich and poor as a state of mind.

I see you are a lawyer and therefore you are maybe used to a tougher tone than I am.

To get clarity for me, please tell me whether the offer I found is still actual.

I am ready to file the basic package plus EIN (75$).

Would you please tell me how to proceed?

Thank you!

P.S.: Sending an email for me is a sign of respect for your life and precious time. No hiding at all.

How should I expect false/overcome information?

But to be sure I did ask!

"Truth and facts" from my perspective would also have been:

"Oh! Sorry! Our mistake! Things changed. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. New conditions are..."

This would be "my" style.

Regards - Michael

Am 19.08.2023 um 22:00 schrieb Donny Klaehn:
> Michael
>
> People who are serious pick up a phone and get answers -they do not choose to hide by email. Poor Dad is a state of mind - do you see
> yourself always broke or do you see yourself on the way to wealth?
>
> That is the message of Robert Kiosaki. You say you do not like my answers -------
>
> I gave you the truth and the facts - we have over 50,000 web pages and not all are up to date. IT is in the process of fixing those that are not.
>
> In any country when the state makes changes people have to fix all their pages too - so do not tell it does not occur in Germany it occurs in any
> country everywhere.
>
> Michael, does the German gov't offer you discounts? No they do not.
>
> Being Broke is thinking negatively --- that is the purpose of Rich Dad Poor Dad -------to get a person to think like a rich dad ----it is not how much
> money you have -----it's what is your attitude.
>
> I wish you the best
>
> Sincerely,
> Donny Klaehn
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 19,2023 at 1:08 PM Michael wrote:
>
> Dear Donny,
>
> this is what I found on https://www.companiesinc.com/start-a-business/poor-dad-package-wyoming-llc/
>
> My comments in green below.
>
> Poor Dad Package
> Am 19.08.2023 um 15:15 schrieb Donny Klaehn:
>> Answers in Blue:
>>
>> Dear Donny,
>>
>> thank you for sending this information.
>>
>> I just want and need your "basic packet" for my new Wyoming LLC that I am willing to file via your company.
>>
>>
>> Answer: I do not sell basic plg/ -this is not the dollar store where you shop for toilet paper or toothpaste. If you get hauled into court and you have no operating memorandum & corp record book the judge will say you have a hobby and not a business
>>
>> How big do you see the business is the question?
>
> So the offer shown above is NOT valid?
>
> I am a bit confused.
>>
>> Would you please answer a few simple questions to me?
>>
>> You may answer within your reply with "yes and no" only, if you will.
>>
>> Is the annual state fee in the future 50$ (as in the information below)?
>>
>>
>> Not sure where you got this - in Wyoming its $ 60 -you have old pricing
>
> Well, coming from the 2nd eMail you sent me:
>
> "The comparison finds that with a Wyoming LLC vs Delaware, Wyoming charges only $100 to form an LLC and $50 to renew, while Delaware charges $90 to form and $300 or more to renew every year. "
>
> Obviously you just sent me the "old pricing". Today.
>>
>> Is the price for your yearly registered agent service 139$?
>>
>> Again you have old pricing its $ 159.00
>
> This is where my "old price" is coming from. Live on your website. Today.
>
> I just wanted to confirm that I got everything right.
> Why not putting this information updated on your website, visible for everyone (like me)?
>>
>> Is the companys EIN included in this packet or not?
>>
>> Since you are not a US citizen or green card hold and have no SS# you would use someone in the company cost is $ 75 it was in the email so you must have skimmed the material
>
> Thank you for this information. As I am neither american nor specialist in law, I felt free to ask you.
>
> An additional information like: "American citizens only" would make things VERY much clearer.
>>
>> What is the meaning of Tax ID application? (Is it relevant, operating outside the US? Please explain.)
>>
>> Doesn't apply to you - you can not apply for a TAX ID - means EIN # you have no SS#
> Thank you. See recommendation above.
>>
>> Is your reference book relevant for poor dad too? (that I am...)
>>
>> Not at all ------70% of what we do is protect people in lawsuits or divorce + set up companies - we are not educators
>> of people on how to generate wealth
>
> I am happy for you, that things are going so well in your life.
>
> Poor dad is your wording. I just wanted to be clear and relate to your own offerings.
>
> To be honest, I do not feel welcome by your answers.
>
> Nevertheless I found out two mistakes in your own wording and official informations - which in my world is something very precious.
>
> In germany people tend to be more precise - what may cause more work, but our products last longer therefore.
>
> I had NO intention AT ALL to critisize anything. I just wanted a clear information for making a good decision.
> This is where I ended up now!
>
> As I am in fact a poor dad of four children I am not too proud to tell you that - if I was in your shoes - I would grant this poor guy a proper discount for his precious hints.
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Looking forward to be your next client
>
>...If this still feels right for both of us.
>
> Regards - Michael
>
>> Sincerely,
>> Donny Klaehn

>>
>> On Sat, Aug 19,2023 at 6:09 AM Michael wrote:
>>
>> Dear Donny,
>>
>> thank you for sending this information.
>>
>> I just want and need your "basic packet" for my new Wyoming LLC that I am willing to file via your company.
>>
>>
>> Would you please answer a few simple questions to me?
>>
>> You may answer within your reply with "yes and no" only, if you will.
>>
>> Is the annual state fee in future 50$ (as in the information below)?
>> Is the price for your yearly registered agent service 139$?
>> Is the companys EIN included in this packet or not?
>> What is the meaning of Tax ID application? (Is it relevant, operating outside the US? Please explain.)
>> Is your reference book relevant for poor dad too? (that I am...)
>>
>> Thank you very much!
>>
>> Looking forward to be your next client!
>>
>> Regards from Germany - Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 19.08.2023 um 05:06 schrieb Donny Klaehn:
>>> Good Morning Jordan,
>>>
>>> I received your email today on " Setting Up a Wyoming LLC ". We have been in the Company Formation & Asset Protection Business for 117 years with over 102k Clients worldwide. We can "Definitely" be of assistance to you.
>>>
>>> We are the largest offshore service provider in the nation. We are also the world's supplier of asset protection services for law firms. We have 102,000 clients in our database. So you contacted the right place.
>>>
>>> My recommendation For You: Wyoming has Zero Taxation + Zero Capitalization + Privacy & Asset Protection
>>>
>>> Wyoming Corp $ 535.00
>>> EIN# 75.00
>>> Virtual Office 995.00
>>> Total Investment $ 1605.00
>>>
>>>
>>> NOTE: DO NOT SKIM ANY OF THE ATTACHMENTS + LINKS OR VIDEOS - CALL ME WITH QUESTIONS *******812
>>> READ THE MATERIAL ------------> IT WILL ANSWER 98% OF ALL QUESTIONS Skype Skype: live:donny_740
>>>
>>>
>>> What we do for You
>>>
>>> Benefits Included In Your Package
>>> Name search / reservation.
>>> Preparation and filing the articles of formation
>>> Registered agent service.
>>> Essential corporation checklist
>>> Complete Corporate Kit
>>> Rapid Filing Service - Documents are submitted on the same day, overnight or hand delivered to the government
>>> FedEx overnight or electronic fast delivery to you
>>>
>>> https://www.companiesinc.com/start-a-business/wyoming-llc-benefits/ Click on & read on Wyoming
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To Get Started: We send you an invoice, Need a name for the Wyoming LLC & You pay via credit card. We make it as easy as we can for you to complete. Everything is sent to you via Email.
>>>
>>> Call me or email me to get started
>>>
>>> Estimated Time to set up a Wyoming Company: 2 - 3 days if you have Due Diligence complete
>>>
>>> Note: Please review all the videos & attachments - it will help you understand everything
>>>
>>>
>>> The Wyoming LLC Way
>>>
>>> After you've weighed the pros and cons and decided that forming an LLC is right for you, it seems like the most logical thing to do is to base the LLC in your home state.
>>>
>>> That's where you're conducting your business, right? But unless you live in Wyoming already, you could be missing out on some great benefits by staying at home. You have a lot more options than just your home state
>>>
>>> In an episode of the Real Estate Investing News, as part of the Real Wealth Network, Kathy Fettke discussed the three most popular states for LLCs: Nevada, Delaware, and Wyoming. As the very first state to allow the formation of LLCs in 1977, Wyoming has had a long history with LLCs.
>>>
>>> Professionals still prize it today for its reputation of high privacy and low costs. In choosing an LLC Wyoming vs Nevada, Wyoming members can enjoy even greater security and anonymity. LLC members and managers don't have to be disclosed in the articles of organization.
>>>
>>> Plus, there is also the option of a "lifetime proxy." A lifetime proxy allows an LLC member to express his or her voice through another person who holds membership interest in the LLC.
>>>
>>> Choosing Wyoming to form your LLC is great on your wallet too. In an article for FX Street, Michael Atias compares fees among the most popular states to incorporate in.
>>>
>>> The comparison finds that with a Wyoming LLC vs Delaware, Wyoming charges only $100 to form an LLC and $50 to renew, while Delaware charges $90 to form and $300 or more to renew every year.
>>>
>>> Nevada has even worse rates, charging $425 in state fees plus legal fees and registered agent fees to form and $350 plus registered agent fees to renew. That's an extra $250 or more every year that could stay in your pocket!
>>> Wyoming LLC Asset Protection from Lawsuits
>>>
>>> One of the strongest features of the Wyoming LLC is how it protects your assets from lawsuits. First of all, it is one of the only states in the country that protects assets you hold in a single-member LLC. That is, let's say you hold a bank account or real estate in an LLC in almost any other state.
>>>
>>> Someone sues you personally. Say, you rear-end someone in their car. The collision injures the other driver. They sue you for much more than your insurance covers.
>>>
>>> In most states, you would have to have two or more members in that LLC before it protects you from someone seizing the assets in the LLC. With a Wyoming LLC, a one-person LLC protects assets. That is, even if you are the only member the asset protection provisions remain.
>>>
>>> Say the lawsuit happens on the other side of the fence. Someone slips and falls on a piece of real estate you hold in a Wyoming LLC.
>>>
>>> The LLC acts as a barrier, keeping the lawsuit in the company. It can protect your personal assets from seizure. So your house, your car, your bank account are safe from a lawsuit against the company.
>>>
>>> Only the assets of the company are at risk. Incidentally, we do have other asset protection strategies we can employ for your personal and business assets as well. Just give us a call.
>>>
>>> The Wyoming LLC is one of the most effective and cost-effective domestic asset protection tools in the United States. There are far stronger asset protection tools offshore such as the international asset protection trust and the Nevis LLC in the Caribbean. But for US-based asset protection, the Wyoming LLC is one of the strongest.
>>>
>>> Charging Order:
>>>
>>> The charging order protects the LLC itself, and other members, from liability against a member's private debts. Charging order protection states also keep the LLC's management structure intact. This keeps a creditor with a claim against one of the members from taking that member's place in the LLC.
>>>
>>> A charging order is a court-authorized lien placed on distributions made from a business. A charging order allows a creditor to garnish distributions to recoup money owed to them by a member or owner of a business entity.
>>>
>>>
>>> LLC VS Corp
>>>
>>> One of the most significant benefits of an LLC is that of pass-through taxes. LLC owners don't have to file a corporate tax return. An owner simply reports their share of profit and loss on their individual tax return. This prevents double taxation, your business paying taxes and you paying taxes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A Limited Liability Company, or LLC, is not a corporation, although it offers many of the same advantages. An LLC is best described as a combination of a corporation and a partnership. LLCs offer the limited liability of a corporation, while allowing more flexibility in managing the business and organization.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So, by default, a single-member LLC is taxed as a sole proprietorship while a multimember LLC is considered a partnership... An LLC taxed as an S-corp means the owner's salary will be a business expense so the owner will report salary and other business profit on their personal income tax return.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Small business owners often choose to form an LLC instead of a corporation because LLCs offer more flexibility in the way they are managed and usually have fewer recordkeeping and reporting obligations than corporations. Unlike an LLC or a C corporation, an S corporation is not a type of business entity.
>>>
>>>
>>> What I am going to need for a Wy Company Set Up:
>>> 1) 3 names for the Wyoming company -
>>> 2) Due diligence emailed to me - Passport Notarized
>>> 3) we send you an electronic document - Panda doc - need that signed with Payment via a credit card
>>> 4) Address where we send your company to you
>>>
>>>
>>> My direct number is 661 - 310- 2812. I can be reached on weekends. We are a US based company. I am in Florida. Let me know a timeline you have to put this in motion. This is a landline.
>>>
>>> Testimonials
>>>
>>> Companies Incorporated #1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0whxMC8EcE?rel=0
>>>
>>>
>>> Kevin O'Leary AKA "Mr. Wonderful" on Asset Protection Planners
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/aZ_I2fN0XjI
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Donny Klaehn

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Michael

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