Would not recomend Sorels at all purchased 2 pairs with in 2 months they were both ruined - There response send us both pairs ( I pay the 100 for shipping) and after 4 weeks we will send you a credit so you can shop here again. First they no longer are selling the boots I ordered Second costs just as much to ship back, and they don't even care I'm spreading the word DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY